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Bill Gates über riesige Displays, Steve Jobs & WinFS
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Jef Raskin:
As I said in my history of the Mac Project (the one currently being serialized in CHAC), the Mac was by no means the work of one person, but the combined efforts of thousands in hundreds of companies large and small. It was not, as many accounts anachronistically relate, stolen from PARC by Steve Jobs after he saw the Alto running SmallTalk on a visit. For one thing the usual account (as in Levy's book, "Insanely Great" and others) denigrates the original and creative work done by all the Apple employees that put their hearts into the Mac. Most of the histories of the Mac were written without their authors interviewing the original team (Brian Howard, who contributed so much, is always missed), and the history of the Mac that Apple's own P/R department dispensed was based on Jobs's version. Many didn't speak with me: without knowing that I had worked out many of the key usability ideas when Jobs was still in grade school and before there was a Xerox PARC to learn from, it is perhaps understandable that people would find it necessary to invent a history that derives the Mac's genesis from the nearest similar work. The honest intellectual debt the Mac owes to the work at PARC was not a case of highway robbery.
http://mxmora.best.vwh.net/JefRaskin.html#moreFacts
Bruce Horn:
For more than a decade now, I've listened to the debate about where the Macintosh user interface came from. Most people assume it came directly from Xerox, after Steve Jobs went to visit Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Center). This "fact" is reported over and over, by people who don't know better (and also by people who should!). Unfortunately, it just isn't true - there are some similarities between the Apple interface and the various interfaces on Xerox systems, but the differences are substantial. ...
http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=On_Xerox,_Apple_and_Progress.txt&topic=Software%20Design&sortOrder=Sort%20by%20Date
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Macs & Java: Apple und weitere Firmen gehackt
@shriker: Ja klar. Weil ich mir sicher bin, dass du nicht in der Lage bist etwas liefern zu können - abseits der üblichen Geschichten, die auf eigene Dummheit des Users zurückgehen.
Macs & Java: Apple und weitere Firmen gehackt
@steph2: Der Artikel ist qualitativ für die Füße. Ansonsten mal Butter bei de Fisch!
Macs & Java: Apple und weitere Firmen gehackt
@shriker: Und was soll das für ein OS X Virus gewesen sein? Bitte Links. Bin mir sicher, dass da von dir nichts kommen wird. Wie sagte nochmal Dieter N.? ;-) Du bringst maximal so ein Teil, das auf Socialengineering aufbaut; also der User sich aus eigener Dummheit selber installiert.
Übrigens: Die Lücke kam über Java!
Bill Gates über riesige Displays, Steve Jobs & WinFS
OT:
Jef Raskin:
As I said in my history of the Mac Project (the one currently being serialized in CHAC), the Mac was by no means the work of one person, but the combined efforts of thousands in hundreds of companies large and small. It was not, as many accounts anachronistically relate, stolen from PARC by Steve Jobs after he saw the Alto running SmallTalk on a visit. For one thing the usual account (as in Levy's book, "Insanely Great" and others) denigrates the original and creative work done by all the Apple employees that put their hearts into the Mac. Most of the histories of the Mac were written without their authors interviewing the original team (Brian Howard, who contributed so much, is always missed), and the history of the Mac that Apple's own P/R department dispensed was based on Jobs's version. Many didn't speak with me: without knowing that I had worked out many of the key usability ideas when Jobs was still in grade school and before there was a Xerox PARC to learn from, it is perhaps understandable that people would find it necessary to invent a history that derives the Mac's genesis from the nearest similar work. The honest intellectual debt the Mac owes to the work at PARC was not a case of highway robbery.
http://mxmora.best.vwh.net/JefRaskin.html#moreFacts
Bruce Horn:
For more than a decade now, I've listened to the debate about where the Macintosh user interface came from. Most people assume it came directly from Xerox, after Steve Jobs went to visit Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research Center). This "fact" is reported over and over, by people who don't know better (and also by people who should!). Unfortunately, it just isn't true - there are some similarities between the Apple interface and the various interfaces on Xerox systems, but the differences are substantial. ...
http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=On_Xerox,_Apple_and_Progress.txt&topic=Software%20Design&sortOrder=Sort%20by%20Date
Bill Gates über riesige Displays, Steve Jobs & WinFS
@Windowze: Das ist eine Flaschaussage und kein Fakt. Ansonsten belege mal deinen Fakt. Wirst du nicht können ;)
Fakt ist was ganz anderes... ;)
Beispiel:
Later testimony in the U.S. D.O.J. Microsoft anti-trust trial revealed that, at the time, Apple was threatening Microsoft with a multi-billion dollar lawsuit over the allegedly stolen code, and in return Bill Gates was threatening with the cancellation of Office for the Mac. [2] [3] In August 1997, Apple and Microsoft announced a settlement deal. Apple would drop all current lawsuits, including all lingering issues from the "Look & Feel" lawsuit and the "QuickTime source code" lawsuit, and agree to make Internet Explorer the default browser on the Macintosh unless the user explicitly chose the bundled Netscape browser. In return, Microsoft agreed to continue developing Office, Internet Explorer, and various developer tools and software for the Mac for the next 5 years, and purchase $150 million of non-voting Apple stock. The companies also agreed to mutual collaboration on Java technologies, and to cross-license all existing patents, and patents obtained during the five-year deal, with one another.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Canyon_Company
'Komplett falsch': Wozniak sauer über 'jOBS'-Szene
@Skeleter: In Pirates of Silicon Valley ist aber auch vieles falsch oder verkürzt dargestellt, z.B. http://www.mac-history.de/apple-geschichte-2/2012-01-29/apple-und-xerox-parc
Blackberrys verlieren ihren Kern-Markt ans iPhone
@GrIvEl: Uh ein BB-Fan mal zur Abwechslung. Anhand deiners Posts glaube ich kaum, dass du ein Security-Experte bist. Aber zähle ruhig weiter jede Menge Zertifikate auf... EAL4 zum Beispiel alleine in den Raum zu werfen, sagt "viel" aus ohne PP.
Blackberrys verlieren ihren Kern-Markt ans iPhone
@IT-Manager: Was spricht so sehr gegen S/MIME in der Mail.App auf dem iPhone? Mail.App nutzt Data Protection API; Krypto ist beim iPhone in Hardware.
Zertifikate kannst du z.B. mit dem iPhone Configuration Utility verteilen oder direkt über USB-Kabel aufspieln.
Samsung: Event am 22. März, wohl mit Galaxy S3
@Lordlinux: Du liegst aber nicht richtig. Beim iPhone 4s klappt das nicht mehr. Und bei den altem iPhone lässt sich das auch deutlich erschweren, in dem man einen längeren Pin vergibst.
Zudem gibt es noch die Data-Protection API. Die ist noch mal eine weitere Verschlüsselung, die Apps nutzen können ;-) Die ist von dem obigen natürlich nicht betroffen ;-))
Passcode-Knacken (iPhone 4)
4 Ziffern < 30 Minuten
6 Ziffern ca. 2 Tage
8 Ziffern 6 Monate
6 Kleinbuchstaben ca. 1,5 Jahre
4 Ziffern + Kleinbuchstaben ca 3 Tage
6 Ziffern + Kleinbuchstaben ca 10 Jahre
Quelle: c't
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"Unternehmen, die derzeit betroffene Apple-Geräte im Einsatz haben, sollten sicherstellen, dass ein Passcode auf dem Gerät gesetzt ist und die Komplexität des Passcodes den Sicherheitsanforderungen der gespeicherten Daten gerecht wird. Bei eigenen Applikationen können Entwickler besonders sensitive Daten vor der Ablage mittels Data Protection als zusätzlichen Schutzmechanismus mit einer eigenen Verschlüsselung schützen."
Quelle: Cirosec
iPhone 4s und iPad 2 ist davon nicht betroffen.
Samsung: Event am 22. März, wohl mit Galaxy S3
@Boskops: Ja. Geschenkt nehme ich es gerne. Kannst ja posten, wo ich mich melden soll.
Und was ist dumm, dass du beides hast?
Die gewaltige Überlegenheit des iPhone 4s bei der GPU ist eine Tatsache.
Wie sieht es überhaupt beim S2 mit Hardwareverschlüsselung aus?